Talk: Zeni Notorious Monsters

I made quite a few edits. I'm fairly new to wiki's, so please forgive me if I didn't do something right. --MisutoAsura 01:34, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I added the background color to all the seal boxes. I got the color hex codes from wikipedia, and tried to get the exact match where I could. On those that I could not get an exact match, I used my judgment to find a color which seemed similar to the seal name, but would also lend to still being able to see the hyperlinks. I'm still trying to figure out a way to change the text color on hyperlinks, and if I can do that, it should make the page much easier to read.
If you feel that a different color from those I used would be more appropriate, feel free to change it. I just was trying my best to stay exactly with what the names were. --Seeko 16:01, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

any hope of adding this to the quests missions storyline area? seeing how it is a battle system, more complex then the ENM system i would say. dejey 20:13, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

the introduction is very nice, but it needs some details because it is not understood if max who can enter are 18, or will it allow more? also i read something before about once NM is poped no one else will be allowed to enter the zone/battle area? i hope this part is added if conformed thank you ^^

I edited the colors of the links with darker background to white. also, the Ob drops have 9, 8 of them are attachments. I think those should be removed and a link like this: 8 types of attachments should be in there instead to have same format of 2drops(2lines) each NM tier1 --Xjam 08:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Is the points required for each pop item completely random? this is the list when i check them at a time : Vulpangue 1100 Chamrosh 1000 Cheese Hoarder Gigiroon 1400 Brass Borer 1000 Claret 1000 Ob 1100 Velionis 1000 Lil' Apkallu 1200 Chigree 1100 VC-Hijikata 04:06, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

I noticed that the section Tier IV ZNMs Unlocked was removed. Which is fine as it was redundant, but I wonder if we should do the same for Tier1-3 as it is technically redundant there too. It would make the page look less cluttered, and I don't think we would lose any of the clarity. However I'm not going to do it unless others also think it's the right thing to do. Please post up your opinion people! ^.^ --AnonRamuh 02:01, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Just wanted to say that this page was REALLY nice, big props to the person who layed it out and everyone who's made it look so good. I was thinking maybe we should work it out so that on each ZNM's separate page (Iriz Ima, Reacton, etc.), it links back to this page somehow? Like on top where it says "Notorious Monster," maybe "Tier X Zeni Notorious Monster instead? Dunno, just a thought. --JoQuo711 02:04, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

ZNMs now have rage timers?

Per the September 9th, 2008 update, SE said in their update notes that, "The strength of Zeni NMs will now gradually be adjusted after a predetermined amount of time has elapsed following their being claimed." Does anyone have any first-hand knowledge or experience as to the severity of this "adjusted strength"? The main article doesn't mention it anywhere as of yet, and I would think that info would be very helpful. --Eisenzahn 08:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Requested Move

Does anyone else think it would be best to make this a category page, so that all items/notorious monsters involved could simply have a nice category tag on them? I put in a "requested move" tag, but it doesn't actually say where the move was requested for, but I hope other people will be able to give input. (Also, someone more well-versed in wiki code would be able to make the actual change) --WinterNightz 01:43, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

so u basically want it to be a category to have alphabetical order of NMs/drops ? because there's links all over the page right now for everything. (not alphabetical order) --Xjam 02:05, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll move it using import if that's what you guys desire. I think its a good idea anyway. --User:Charitwo/Sig 04:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I like this idea, a lot. But before we jump on it, is there any other examples of this type of thing being a category in wiki? In other words do you guys think changing it would conform more to the way other sections of the game have been done? Or at this point are we changing the standard for how these things are done? (Changing standards isn't necessarily a bad thing, often times change is for the better.)--AnonRamuh 17:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Closest example I can think of to things of this nature being a Category: page is Assault. The Assault Page is laid out in an orderly, sensible method (like this one it), but is still a Category: page.
I support this change. It will take nothing from it, but it will be easier to link everything associated with the ZNM system (NM's, drops, key items, etc). --Seeko 17:58, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I can't see anything wrong with moving it to a category page. --Melios 11:18, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

seems reasonable. --GAHOO t/ c 17:25, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Resolution: Move to category. --User:Charitwo/Sig 17:27, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Alternate Layout

Seems to me there is a more efficient way of laying this out, such as below. Obviously it doesn't show the drops - maybe it should also be on the main article?

First Path			Second Path			Third Path
Chamrosh	Cheese Hoarder Gigiroon	Vulpangue	Brass Borer	Claret	Ob	Chigre	Lil' Apkallu	Velionis
↓			↓			↓
Maroon Seal			Cerise Seal			Pine Green Seal
↓			↓			↓
Iriri Samariri	Iriz Ima	Lividroot Amooshah	Anantaboga	Dextrose	Reacton	Verdelet	Wulgaru	Zareehkl the Jubilant
↓			↓			↓
Apple Green Seal			Salmon Seal			Amber Seal
↓			↓			↓
Armed Gears	Dea	Gotoh Zha the Redolent	Achamoth	Khromasoul Bhurborlor	Nosferatu	Experimental Lamia	Mahjlaef the Paintorn	Nuhn
↓	↓	↓	↓	↓	↓	↓	↓	↓
Charcoal Grey Seal	Deep Purple Seal	Chestnut-colored Seal	Copper-colored Seal	Gold-colored Seal	Purplish-grey Seal	Fallow-colored seal	Taupe-colored Seal	Sienna-colored Seal
↘	↓	↙	↘	↓	↙	↘	↓	↙
Tinnin			Sarameya			Tyger
↓			↓			↓
Lilac-colored Seal			Bright Blue Seal			Lavender-colored Seal
↘			↓			↙
Pandemonium Warden

Personally, I like the layout as it is now. BUT, I think that this is a very concise, easy to read chart. I think that the page could benefit from having something along these lines in addition to what is already there. --Seeko 23:03, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I really like the looks of this chart. I think it'd be a great idea to add this. Some people seem to have trouble grasping how the whole thing works and I think that this should make it extremely straightforward. --Rhiaelle 21:07, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

What is with "Lamae Path" "Troll Path" "Mamool Ja Path" on main page? if it was going to have a qualifier, wouldnt the HNMs be better referance point?

Tracking Chart

Template for those interested: Template:ZNM Status Chart.

Efficient progress towards Pandemonium Warden

Step	Zeni NM	Popitem	min. Zeni	Area	Dropitem
1	Lil' Apkallu Velionis	Greenling Golden Teeth	1000 1000	Arrapago Reef Arrapago Reef	Lil' Apkallu's Egg Velionis's Bone
2	Wulgaru Cheese Hoarder Gigiroon	Opalus Gem Rodent Cheese	2000 1000	Alzadaal Undersea Ruins Alzadaal Undersea Ruins	Wulgaru's Head Gigiroon's Cape
3	Brass Borer Claret	Shadeleaf Pectin	1000 1000	Mount Zhayolm Mount Zhayolm	Brass Borer's Cocoon Claret Globule
4	Anantaboga Reacton	Raw Buffalo Bone Charcoal	2000 2000	Mount Zhayolm Halvung	Anantaboga's Heart Reacton's Ashes
5	Brass Borer Khromasoul Bhurborlor	Shadeleaf Vinegar Pie	1000 3000	Mount Zhayolm Mount Zhayolm	Brass Borer's Cocoon Bhurborlor's Vambrace
6	Dextrose Achamoth	Granulated Sugar Rock Juice	2000 3000	Halvung Halvung	Dextrose's Blubber Achamoth's Antenna
7	Nosferatu Chigre	Pure Blood Spoilt Blood	3000 1000	Aydeewa Subterrane Aydeewa Subterrane	Nosferatu's Claw Chigre (Item)
8	Chamrosh Iriri Samariri	Floral Nectar Samariri Corpsehair	1000 2000	Mamook Mamook	Chamrosh's Beak Iriri Samariri's Hat
9	Lividroot Amooshah Dea	Oily Blood Olzhiryan Cactus	2000 3000	Bhaflau Thickets Bhaflau Thickets	Amooshah's Tendril Dea's Horn
10	Armed Gears Cheese Hoarder Gigiroon Wulgaru Mahjlaef the Paintorn	Ferrite Rodent Cheese Opalus Gem Exorcism Treatise	3000 1000 2000 3000	Alzadaal Undersea Ruins Alzadaal Undersea Ruins Alzadaal Undersea Ruins Caedarva Mire	Armed Gears' Fragment Gigiroon's Cape Wulgaru's Head Mahjlaef's Staff
11	Iriz Ima	Senorita Pamama	2000	Wajaom Woodlands	Iriz Ima's Hide
12	Gotoh Zha the Redolent	Sheep Botfly	3000	Wajaom Woodlands	Gotoh Zha's Necklace
13	Verdelet	Mint Drop	2000	Caedarva Mire	Verdelet's Wing
14	Nuhn Experimental Lamia	Rose Scampi Myrrh	3000 3000	Arrapago Reef Caedarva Mire	Nuhn's Esca Experimental Lamia's Armband
15	Tinnin	Monkey Wine	4050	Wajaom Woodlands	Tinnin's Fang
16	Sarameya	Buffalo Corpse	4050	Mount Zhayolm	Sarama's Hide
17	Tyger	Singed Buffalo	4050	Caedarva Mire	Tyger's Tail
18	Pandemonium Warden	Tinnin's Fang Sarama's Hide Tyger's Tail = Pandemonium Key	5000	Aydeewa Subterrane	1-2 Mulcibar's Scoria <3!!!
	min. Zeni Cost		71150		min. 5h Farm Time

As a purrrsonal note: *High paw!* m<(o.O)"M - Nyclia @ Phoenix

Idea: 29. August 2016 00:40 (GMT+1)
Added: 01.09.2022 20:20 (GMT+2)

Sorry, it got burrried somewhere. Time to clean the claws now! *washsound somewhere in the backgrrround*